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	<title>Comments on: Is &#8220;Trust Us&#8221; Good Enough?</title>
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		<title>By: Friday Five: British Library, New Zealand librarians, state of newspapers and more @ A Curious View of the World</title>
		<link>http://www.openbookalliance.org/2009/09/is-trust-us-good-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-67</link>
		<dc:creator>Friday Five: British Library, New Zealand librarians, state of newspapers and more @ A Curious View of the World</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 04:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] sympathy lies with the OBA which has raised quite a few questions about Google Books including privacy and economic/access issues. The controversy over the Google Books court settlement is something I [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ResourceShelf &#187; Blog Archive &#187; An Update on Google Books and Privacy</title>
		<link>http://www.openbookalliance.org/2009/09/is-trust-us-good-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-64</link>
		<dc:creator>ResourceShelf &#187; Blog Archive &#187; An Update on Google Books and Privacy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 20:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] See Also: Is “Trust Us” Good Enough? (via Open Book Alliance Blog) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Daniel Brandt</title>
		<link>http://www.openbookalliance.org/2009/09/is-trust-us-good-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-60</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Brandt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 15:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google&#039;s response to the FTC&#039;s request for a special books privacy policy is pathetic. It says absolutely nothing that addresses the very problem that has many librarians objecting to Google Books.

The most glaring omission is that Google has not specified a reasonable retention policy for the unique cookie ID and IP address data that it will collect from non-account holders who access Book Search. Sure, Google needs to prevent such users from reading too much of a copyrighted book, but its present cookie and IP address retention policies are a threat to users everywhere.

How about a seven-day retention policy for a special Google Books cookie and the associated IP address? No one will wait a week to read more pages from the same book. With short retention of this data, it will be closer to what libraries do -- libraries normally delete the book data on borrowers when the book is returned. This would also help ensure that the data isn&#039;t used by Google for behavioral ad targeting.

A seven-day retention policy would mean that if lawyers or judges come looking for data on reading habits, there is no data for them to find. It is not illegal in most civilized countries for libraries or search engines to fail to retain user data.

Google answered the FTC with what they do best, by saying nothing at all that&#039;s even worth reading. By the way, there&#039;s a reason why Amazon&#039;s objection to the Settlement didn&#039;t mention &quot;privacy&quot; anywhere. Amazon.com is just as guilty as Google when it comes to unreasonable retention for book access data. The FTC should come down hard on both of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google&#8217;s response to the FTC&#8217;s request for a special books privacy policy is pathetic. It says absolutely nothing that addresses the very problem that has many librarians objecting to Google Books.</p>
<p>The most glaring omission is that Google has not specified a reasonable retention policy for the unique cookie ID and IP address data that it will collect from non-account holders who access Book Search. Sure, Google needs to prevent such users from reading too much of a copyrighted book, but its present cookie and IP address retention policies are a threat to users everywhere.</p>
<p>How about a seven-day retention policy for a special Google Books cookie and the associated IP address? No one will wait a week to read more pages from the same book. With short retention of this data, it will be closer to what libraries do &#8212; libraries normally delete the book data on borrowers when the book is returned. This would also help ensure that the data isn&#8217;t used by Google for behavioral ad targeting.</p>
<p>A seven-day retention policy would mean that if lawyers or judges come looking for data on reading habits, there is no data for them to find. It is not illegal in most civilized countries for libraries or search engines to fail to retain user data.</p>
<p>Google answered the FTC with what they do best, by saying nothing at all that&#8217;s even worth reading. By the way, there&#8217;s a reason why Amazon&#8217;s objection to the Settlement didn&#8217;t mention &#8220;privacy&#8221; anywhere. Amazon.com is just as guilty as Google when it comes to unreasonable retention for book access data. The FTC should come down hard on both of them.</p>
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		<title>By: The Practical Nomad</title>
		<link>http://www.openbookalliance.org/2009/09/is-trust-us-good-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-59</link>
		<dc:creator>The Practical Nomad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 14:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Google Books and writers&#039; rights...&lt;/strong&gt;

Writers and publishers (including self-publishers) of &quot;books&quot; including out-of-print-books (and actually including many magazines, journals, chapbooks, ephemera, etc.), have until 4 September 2009 to decide what to do about a proposed settlement of m...</description>
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<p>Writers and publishers (including self-publishers) of &#8220;books&#8221; including out-of-print-books (and actually including many magazines, journals, chapbooks, ephemera, etc.), have until 4 September 2009 to decide what to do about a proposed settlement of m&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sniping over Google Books Settlement intensifies &#124; Between the Lines &#124; ZDNet.com</title>
		<link>http://www.openbookalliance.org/2009/09/is-trust-us-good-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-58</link>
		<dc:creator>Sniping over Google Books Settlement intensifies &#124; Between the Lines &#124; ZDNet.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 12:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] notes that it can&#8217;t nail down its privacy policy until the book settlement is approved. The Open Book Alliance mocks that Google&#8217;s privacy promises:  Given Google’s silence on specifics — from privacy, to pricing, to access, to competition – [...]</description>
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